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Democratic Presidential primaries today

by: Clem Guttata

Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:14:30 AM EST


So, 4 states are holding primaries (and/or caucuses) today. What do you think will happen?

From reading on the Intertubes, the general "conventional wisdom" appears to be:

- Ohio: Hillary's always been ahead there, though Obama's recently closed the gap in polls. If the nasty weather on the way arrives during the day, it could dampen turnout. Who that favors is anyone's guess. CW is Hillary's late surge will keep Obama from pulling an upset. She won't pick up much of a delegate win, but she'll have an important victory to point out as turning back the tide of Obama's momentum.

- Rhode Island: expect a big Hillary win. This is friendly Clinton territory. Obama did make a recent appearance there, which may help his numbers. Even if Hillary's win is "not as big as expected," other news of the day will overshadowed that.

- Vermont: expect a big Obama win. This is friendly Obama territory.

The net effect of RI and VT: it'll help Hillary's "X of X" win/loss ratio, but do nothing to close her significant delegate gap.

- Texas: The CW is: Hillary's late rebound is probably just enough to win the popular vote even if she loses in the delegate count; or, the popular vote is close enough to a tie and the caucus process is fraught with confusion, thus generating just enough questions about the results to push them out a news cycle or two. Either way, she'll probably hold on to just enough of a victory to give her reason to stay in the race.

So, in summary, Hillary will be hailed as stopping Obama's really strong momentum. On the other hand, she's not going to make up any substantial ground on the delegate count.

Obama supporters will use the day as evidence that Hillary should drop out; Hillary supporters as evidence that Hillary is on her way to winning.

What do I think will happen? I haven't a clue. It's been an election season full of surprises. Hillary out-performed polls in NH, since then Obama has been out-performing polls.

With the combination of early voting, unprecedented turn-out levels and proportional delegate allocations, there's no telling how the day will shake out. For political junkies like me, it's another fun day to sit back and watch.

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it was a mixed bag full of both good and bad news for both candidates (4.00 / 1)
hillary clinton did very well, but didn't receive the huge landslide victories she had originally hoped for.  still barack obama didn't receive the knockout punch he and his campaign were hoping for either.

clinton's 10-point win in ohio though will help her stay in the race to fight another day.  she also won a narrow three-point win in texas too even though the earliest exit polls there had obama winning.

the wins for clinton were not the landslide wins she was hoping for and perhaps needed.  

at the same time, obama didn't win in either ohio or texas, something he and his campaign were hoping to do to "seal the deal" and put some major distance between him and clinton.

and she won a rather convincing victory in rhode island too.  the same was true for obama in vermont.

pennsylvania should be interesting.  hillary clinton has normally polled there well, and it should be a state she does rather well in.  

i personally would like to see both of them not focus on each other as much and go after john mccain much more often instead.   yes i guess they do have to point out differences between each other, but i am a little concerned about the increased negative tone recently.

but there was very good news also in the fact the democratic turnout there as normal this year has been much much higher in the democratic contests than in the republican contests.  ohio had very rotten weather yesterday and yet democratic turnout there was approaching near record levels.  a very very great sign for us democrats in perhaps the most important and perhaps most decisive state in the country once again in 2008.

instead i think they should both focus on mccain more often instead.  i think if both of them did that, it would actually help both of their campaigns with democrats and left-leaning independents more than negative campaigning among themselves would, at least in my honest opinion.

wait and see as always!


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