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Rahall, Mollohan vote for Hate Crimes Bill; Capito votes no

by: Carnacki

Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 10:50:58 AM EDT


From an email:

House Passes Hate Crimes Bill

Federal Law Strengthens Law Enforcement's Prosecution of Hate Crimes

Charleston -- Fairness West Virginia the statewide lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender civil rights organization - hails yesterday's bipartisan vote of 249-175 in the U.S. House passing the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act, also known in the U.S. Senate as the Matthew Shepard Act.

"Yesterday's vote moves us closer to ending hate motivated violence" said Fairness Board President Stephen Skinner. "Hate crimes are simply unacceptable. This bill gives law enforcement tools needed to fight hate crimes."

"We thank Representatives Rahall and Mollohan for voting against hate and standing up to the blatant lies that were being told about the bill. I am personally embarrassed that Representative Capito, who claims to be a moderate, voted against this bipartisan effort. She clearly forgets that just ten years ago, J.R. Warren was brutally murdered in Marion County just because he was gay."

President Obama called for passage in the House and urged the Senate to follow. More than 300 law enforcement, civil rights and religious organizations supported the bill.

Fairness West Virginia mobilized its members to lobby on the bill. Additionally, Skinner traveled to Capitol Hill to personally reach out to the West Virginia delegation. Fairness used its internal email list from its website fairnesswv.org and its Facebook group to call its supporters to action.

The bill will give the Justice Department power to investigate and prosecute bias-motivated violence where the perpetrator has selected the victim because of the person's actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disability. It will allow the Justice Department to aid state and local jurisdictions by lending assistance or, where local authorities are unwilling or unable, by taking the lead in investigations and prosecutions of violent crime resulting in death or serious bodily injury that were motivated by bias.

Launched this year, Fairness West Virginia is the state's civil rights organization fighting for fair treatment of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender West Virginians and has attracted over 2000 people to sign up at its website fairnesswv.org and Facebook group.

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Unfortunately... (0.00 / 0)
Unfortunately, considering the regressive culture of West Virginia where even basic rights to employment and housing are not ensured, we won't have much leverage to use this issue against Capito in her possible run for Governor in 2012.

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the perpetrators of crimes against gay, lesbian etc. not being punished?...what happened to the criminal(s) who murdered J.R. Warren?....i guess you all know where i am going with this....some folks who vote against it do so based upon the priciple that irrespective of a persons sexual orientation if a crime committed should be it should be prosecuted in any event...whats the rational for distiguishing between a crime based upon a percieved hatered vs. a crime based upon the desire for financial gain?...they are both equally wrong...

sometimes not (0.00 / 0)
Emmitt Till, James Meredith
murder victims not seen as worthy to be protected by the full force of the local law establishment
murdered for not staying in their place, a lower position based on the color of their skin
Rep. Foxx, with her local North Carolina sensibilities, was on the floor of the House yesterday and she said :
The bill was named after a very unfortunate incident that happened, where a young man was killed, but we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of robbery. It wasn't because he was gay. The bill was named for him, the hate crimes bill was named for him, but it's, it's really a hoax, that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing these bills.
[House Floor Speech, 4/29/09]

a hoax like the global warming?
no wait, that's the connection between Saddam and bin Laden
every robber takes their victim for a ride in the country, ties them to a fence and tortures them to death
in W. Va. law intent is the difference between voluntary manslaughter and in voluntary manslaughter so the mind of the perpetrator is already enshrined
find Billie Holiday's Strange Fruit and listen to it and see if you still think we have always prosecuted crimes
ask your gay friend if being gay was a choice, with the possibility of being ostracized by a parent, or something they were born with like skin color

NFTT: Support My Team or I Will Dance

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james meredith (4.00 / 1)
i think is alive....and certainly right thinking people of today recognize the injustice of the till matter...

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you got me there (4.00 / 1)
Medgar Evers. My bad.
James Meredith was like Charlayne Hunter(-Gault).
today is the operative word there, stevewvu
do i tell my kids that their gay friends have to wait 50 years?

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they dont (0.00 / 0)
have to wait 50 years...a crime today against a hetrosexual is equally wrong as one against a gay irrespective of motive...and they should be prosectuted the same with the same penal result...no more no less...and i am not aware that they are not...again, what happened to the criminals in the jr warren matter...

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Then cop killers.. (0.00 / 0)
Then those convicted of intentionally killing a police officer should receive no more or less punishment than someone convicted of involuntary manslaughter. After all, that's the "equalized" logic you're presenting.

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WV26003 (0.00 / 0)
Good point.

When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

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should is the operative word (0.00 / 0)
Justice is supposed to be blind. The elected prosecutor and elected judge, or it may not matter if they are appointed, import with them the community's sensibility. Burning of the Greenwood section in Tulsa in 1921 was seen as a legitimate response and it took 75 years for Oklahoma to get around to truth and reconciliation. Maybe in some small towns beating up the "queers" get a pass.

I was at the JV track meet and the two "tough" boys behind me spent most of their time talking about other boys. Their street clothes were or their skin color were reasons for disparaging remarks. Would they be kind of kids capable of beating up a gay black man?

The Appalachian Trail murder victims were picked because they were a pair of women and he hated lesbians, but he also attacked a single woman who he saw as more vulnerable. Often it is only the federal statue that gets prosecution. The spouse is from the "crime is a crime" wing of redneck liberals, and sees no need for extra laws or any federal intervention. I come back to "men are not angels".

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Two words - motive and deterrent (0.00 / 0)
The motive and effect of ANY crime is always consideration for the punishment determined. Hate crimes laws merely ensure that those motives are included in a judge's sentencing. It's no different from laws which prosecute a drunk driver more harshly than a sober but negligent driver even though both result in death.  

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death (0.00 / 0)
penaslty proponents say the same thing

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