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'Torture versus freedom'

by: Carnacki

Sun May 17, 2009 at 09:00:00 AM EDT


Via digby, what Vagabond Scholar said:

Defending torture insistently means one's moral compass is pointing straight down to hell. I continue to believe it's essential to confront the dangerous and evil lie that torture "works" and that we're all going to die if we respect human rights, follow the law, or dare to investigate - let alone prosecute - the people responsible for these horribly shameful and criminal policies. However, as many have noted, that we are "debating" torture's usefulness at all means we've failed somehow as a society.

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Torture is the very antithesis of freedom. The key dynamics are not truth, security or patriotism. They are power, dehumanization and sadism. As Rear Admiral John Hutson observed, "torture is the method of choice of the lazy, the stupid and the pseudo-tough."

Entire post, with numerous links, is well worth reading.

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62% now for investigation (or some sort) (0.00 / 0)
Matt Y. reports USA Today Gallup poll numbers in: Torture, Accountability, and American Progress

It's been the drip, drip, drip of information (4.00 / 1)
Only 37% want to ignore this situation. I have to say, I was a little taken aback when I heard Ms. Williams from CAP give sort of "go shopping" answer.

Pelosi is a distraction being created. As David said, it's not the right question.  

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And the Road to Hell (4.00 / 1)
is paved with good intentions.

These cover sheets were the brainchild of Major General Glen Shaffer, a director for intelligence serving both the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the secretary of defense. In the days before the Iraq war, Shaffer's staff had created humorous covers in an attempt to alleviate the stress of preparing for battle. Then, as the body counting began, Shaffer, a Christian, deemed the biblical passages more suitable. Several others in the Pentagon disagreed. At least one Muslim analyst in the building had been greatly offended; others privately worried that if these covers were leaked during a war conducted in an Islamic nation, the fallout-as one Pentagon staffer would later say-"would be as bad as Abu Ghraib."

But the Pentagon's top officials were apparently unconcerned about the effect such a disclosure might have on the conduct of the war or on Bush's public standing. When colleagues complained to Shaffer that including a religious message with an intelligence briefing seemed inappropriate, Shaffer politely informed them that the practice would continue, because "my seniors"-JCS chairman Richard Myers, Rumsfeld, and the commander in chief himself-appreciated the cover pages.

The notion that the office of the Sec. of War was putting Bible verses on the cover sheet of wartime intelligence briefings is the antithesis of the message of the baby born in Bethlehem. I had always found this reaching back to the God of vengeance in the Old Testament by the neo-cons disquieting. How did they not all realize that the Invisible Pink Unicorn is about love, and she wants us to make heaven right here on earth?

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