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Why was West Virginia Blue blocked to state employees?

by: Clem Guttata

Wed Aug 12, 2009 at 10:44:06 AM EDT


By Clem Guttata

Earlier today, Carnacki noted a Charleston Gazette article about state employee access to West Virginia Blue. Reporter Alison Knezevich provides even more background at the Squawk Box blog:

Chief technology officer Kyle Schafer  confirmed today that the site had been inaccessible to some employees, but says it was a mistake caused by filtering software. Some agencies had asked the office to block "travel sites," Schafer told me.

A Web site with a very similar address - www.wvblue.com - fell under the travel category (though it doesn't look like a travel site).

Schafer says cabinet secretaries can ask his office to block certain kinds of sites, but it's rare that an individual site is targeted. Usually, they ask to block broad categories, like social media sites (Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, etc.)

I've been trying really hard to reconstruct the sequence of events required for the InterMountain website to be miscategorized as a travel site and then manually entered incorrectly into a list of sites to block.

Simply put: this explanation does not add up.

What I'd like to know...

Alison Knezevich is off to a great start on uncovering something is amiss. But, W.Va. CTO Kyle Schafer leaves a lot of questions unanswered:

1. Which agencies requested blocking of "travel sites"? When did they request it? (Question for those agencies: why did they request it?)

2. Has any agency requested the blocking of individual sites so far this year? If so, which agency requested what site to be blocked (and when)?

3. When one agency requests blocking of a specific site or category of sites, does that block access for all other agencies?

4. What is the process for identifying what sites are in what category? Does the state categorize sites itself or does it use a third-party service that categorizes sites? Is it done through a individual check of each site or through automated keyword matching?

5. What criteria was used to categorize the InterMountain property development company as a travel site? (The word travel appears nowhere on the site.)

6. What is the quality control process to make sure that websites are properly categorized?

I am reluctant to make any guesses about why access to our site was blocked. But, the provided explanation suggests a level of incompetence that is troubling unto itself.

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Clem (4.00 / 1)
Could you comment on the larger issue of blocking social network sites and travel sites actually is counterproductive for employers to do?


When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

bad policy poorly implemented (4.00 / 1)
There's an even bigger question if the request made any sense or not. Why block "travel sites"? To protect a monopoly for the travel agency that books travel for state employees? Even if state employees are required to use a centralized travel agency service, it would still be of benefit for state employees to be able to access travel sites to do research for trip planning.

Also, I can't remember if it was a recent WSJ or NY Times article, but it said that causal work place Internet use (e.g., employees doing things like booking their vacation trips from work) was, overall, more of an increase for productivity because employees tend to do that stuff in 'down time' on their job and tend to work longer hours if they can take care of personal stuff at work.


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nonsense (0.00 / 0)
wv blue, red green purple whatever should not be accessible to state employees on the job....

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nanny state employers (4.00 / 2)
What websites do you block for your employees? (Or, do they even have Internet access?)

Do you monitor what they are doing every minute of the day or just concern yourself with whether or not they get their job done well?


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i pay (0.00 / 0)
them....and i do monitor what they do....and i restrict access to the web....

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steve (0.00 / 0)
Does your posting here make you less productive of a worker? I suspect it does not. You probably do it while waiting for calls or that momentary break between meetings, etc.


When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

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doent matter (0.00 / 0)
its my business and if i elect to screw around on this website its my money i am losing not theirs......

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steve (0.00 / 0)
Believe it or not, I hope you're not "losing" money while here. But I'm genuinely curious: are you personally less effective of a worker because of it?

When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

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yes, absolutely (0.00 / 0)
but i have the flexibility to make the choice given the nature of what i do and that i do it for myself....the people i pay money to do a job do not have that flexibility....and before i get painted as some ogre of an employer let me say this...i genuinely believe i provide a place of employement when the employees are treated and paid well...there is flexibility to attend to personal matters while on the job such as take a child to the doctor midday if needed or whatever else within reason...heck, the shortest tenured employee i have has been here 6 years...my personal assistant 19...however i have had to deal with employees on the internet during work...i find that unacceptable given our work load and i put an end to it...i am of the opinion that if they have time to do that, they dont have enough to do and perhaps i am therefore overstaffed...they get the point right quick

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Do as I say and not as I do. (4.00 / 1)
Standard rightwing hypocrite.

Great leaders lead by example, tyrants bark orders, wheel back and put their feet on their desks. Stevewvu just inadvertently admitted that he's taking personal advantage over his employees because of the severely depressed economy in southern WV which he strives to prolong.

No surprise there.


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corporate blocks p0rn and stuff (0.00 / 0)
otherwise we are on the honor system, like taking finals in college

NFTT: Support My Team or I Will Dance

Inter office and intra office memos and phone notes are subject to FOIA requests. (4.00 / 1)
If you want to really stir things up, fire one at them asking for any agency memos, faxes and/ or notes which reveal the cain of command leading to the incident. The beauty of it is that now, under WV law, you don't even have to pay for copies if you make an appointment to view and/ or photograph the documents.

I know, because I successfully completed a FOIA search at the Secretary of State's offices back when Betty Ireland was screwing with WV elections.


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