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The 'most powerful panel' in the history of Netroots Nation

by: Carnacki

Tue Aug 18, 2009 at 08:34:34 AM EDT


teacherken told me after the panel on Appalachia and mountaintop removal it was the "most powerful panel" he'd been to in the four years of going to DailyKos/Netroots Nation conventions. He writes about it here:

The panel that struck me most profoundly, perhaps more than any I have encountered in four years of attending these conventions, was on Saturday.  "Green Begins in Appalachia: Ending Mountain Removal" moved those who attended greatly.  It began with Jeff Biggers telling us why he did not want to use the microphone, because if you think about it the wire powering it connects with the destruction of mountains in Appalachia, in West Virginia, Kentucky, and as I have seen for myself Virginia.  Lorelie Scarbro told us how communities are being destroyed, and how those in the  Coal River Valley are trying to use the ridges for wind power rather than destroying the ridges to remove the coal underneath, in the process burying even more streams and poisoning even more wells.    Stephanie Pistello talked about a one sentence law that could stop mountaintop removal by restoring a definition of fill that was changed under the Bush administration - and reminded us that the man most responsible for that change, former mining executive Stephen Griles, is now in a federal penitentiary.  

The one who moved me most was Bob Kincaid.  He started by telling us about ancestors who arrived in his neck of the woods from Scotland and Ireland in the 1700s.  He then told us about grandchildren, a 2 year old in a playpen, and a 1 year old in the crib, the 11th generation of his family in that area.  He wonders if there will be a twelfth.  He wondered if his people were not considered Americans, because you don't do this to your fellow citizens.  

As I listened, I wondered if the mining executives and their political supporters might consider the loss of these communities and the habitat and the mountains as collateral damage, and I said to someone with whom I spoke later that collateral damage is a cleaned up synonym for atrocity.   That was one of the nicer words I could use -  crimes against humanity, crimes against nature and other similar thoughts occurred to me.

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"It began with Jeff Biggers telling us why he did not want to use the microphone, because if you think about it the wire powering it connects with the destruction of mountains in Appalachia,..."

Did he turn off the lights too?  


No... (4.00 / 3)
No, we dimmed them by 44%.

(April, 2009 is most recently available figure.)

Amazingly, we were still able to see each other just fine in the room. Just goes to show how much room there is for demand reduction through conservation.


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shoulda (1.00 / 1)
just turned them off

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it's all relative (4.00 / 2)
The David L. Lawrence Convention Center is already more efficient than many other public spaces. It was one of the first to do this. Many of the spaces were naturally lit.

Go pick up some litter.

NFTT: Support My Team or I Will Dance


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no litter pick (0.00 / 0)
up today. splitting firewood.  

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and by the way (4.00 / 2)
proud to have been a part of the construction process!

NFTT: Support My Team or I Will Dance

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By implying that cutting back on using coal-fired electricity is silly or worthless (4.00 / 1)
you just revealed that you've been swilling too much of the Blanken-Aide.


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talk about being silly (4.00 / 1)
his point was that he could be heard without the mike -  he was conserving electricity

at dailykos your comment might well earn a hide rating


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teacherken (4.00 / 1)
He's our resident rightwinger. He usually behaves and we try to drag him out from his cave into the light, but keep him around for shits and giggles.

When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

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I found this post because of twitter (4.00 / 2)
jwrandolphMost powerful panel in the history of Netroots Nation?: http://bit.ly/15gVc1 @stephpistello @wvablue @teacherken

glad it spoke to you


Glad you wrote about it. (4.00 / 1)
Good seeing you in Pittsburgh. We need to meetup more often.

When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

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