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Gov. Manchin touts one clean room in a dirty house

by: Clem Guttata

Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 20:04:18 PM EDT


By Clem Guttata

It's bad enough that the coal industry is forever morphing the meaning of "clean coal." (One hundred years ago, "clean coal" merely meant coal that burned with less smoke.) It's even worse when a public official catapults the propaganda.

Manchin was in Germany last week talking coal. He got to tour a state of the art coal burning facility.

"I saw some things, as far as the Oxyfuel plant. It's the only one working in the world, 30-megawatt of a coal-fired plant that you could eat off the floor. You could eat off everything around it. It's unbelievable."

The Oxyfuel plant is the first CO2 free operation of its kind. It emits no greenhouse gases. It burns coal into pure oxygen while the CO2 is turned into a flue gas, collected and sequestered.

I'd like Gov. Manchin to explain how many dead fish from Dunkard Creek we could eat off the floor of that clean room in a Oxyfuel plant in Germany. (I'd also like him to tell me where all the dirty coal ash from that plant goes, too.)

Deceit and Lies

Just because one small part of the coal extraction and consumption process is made a bit cleaner, that does nothing to undo all the damage done by the rest of the process.

Right now, Manchin says the EPA and the Obama Administration are dead set on a cap and trade bill that leaves no room for innovative clean coal technology.

Either Gov. Manchin was gravely misquoted or he is out-and-out lying.

Talk with Rep. Boucher. Talk to Sen. Byrd. The "cap and trade bill" passed by the House and the bill under consideration by the Senate provide massive subsidies for "innovative clean coal technology."

Problems and Solutions

Next, Gov. Manchin is directly quoted:

"All I ask this federal government to do is try to help us find the solutions. Don't continue to create problems.

Gov. Manchin, don't insult West Virginians. The EPA does not create problems. The EPA discovers them when they are sitting around waiting to be found.

The EPA did not create the dead zone in Dunkard Creek. The EPA did not cause the entire order of mayflies and the entire order of stoneflies (not just individual species, genera, and families) to disappear downstream from mountaintop removal sites.

To have any credibility in asking for hand outs for "innovative clean coal technology" support, it would really help to be an honest broker about existing climate change legislation. Even more so, it would help to demonstrate a commitment to existing environmental laws.

Why should anyone trust the coal industry and state regulators to be partners in the development and implementation of risky complex  technology like carbon capture and storage when they can't even get today's simple technology right?

Gov. Manchin, you need to show that West Virginia is serious about recognizing the importance of existing regulations before asking Congress to develop the new regulatory framework for carbon storage.

Blaming the EPA for doing its job is an insult to West Virginians who can no longer draw safe drinking water from their wells. Blaming the EPA is an insult to West Virginians who can no longer find fish in the nearest stream.

The EPA is part of the solution here. It's a novel and refreshing idea, really, to see a government regulatory agency that is interested in doing the job it is required by law to do.

Oxy-Fuel diagram from www.engineerlive.com, Flickr photo credit: TV19 - DD Meighen

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Hey Joe (4.00 / 1)
show us some of that MOUNTAINeer spirit and do something to preserve the place you call "Almost Heaven" including mountains, streams, forests and wildlife or quit calling yourself a Mountaineer.

Clem, you left out one option (4.00 / 4)
Don't assume that Manchin was either simply misquoted or that he was lying.  It could be that he's misinformed. After all, we can only guess the extent to which he's just another willing tool for the coal magnates pulling the strings of politicians all across Appalachia for the better part of a century. However, Ken Ward provides pretty solid evidence that Governor Manchin is purposely choosing to ignore studies showing that mining coal hurts the state far more than it contributes when, Ward revealed
...[T}he [research] work by Hendryx is a more sophisticated (and difficult) analysis, which tries to do what a lot of political conservatives and folks in the coal industry say needs to be done: Weigh coal's costs and benefits against each other when considering government policies that would impact the industry.

Oddly, this research hasn't been cited much by Friends of Coal, like West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin. After Hendryx published one of his papers last year, I asked the Manchin administration if they planned to look into the issue, and this is the response I got:

Gov. Joe Manchin plans no immediate state review of coal pollution's impacts on public health following the release of four (4!) studies that raise questions about the industry's effects.

   Manchin asked two state agencies to look at the studies, but any serious follow-up investigation should be left to the federal government, state officials said.
"If what they are saying about coal, if you follow that assessment, that's not just a West Virginia issue," said Lara Ramsburg, Manchin's communications director.


Interesting, given that these days, the Manchin administration's position is that federal officials ought to keep their noses out of West Virginia's coal industry.

Not to belabor the point, Clem, but back on February 26, 1972, at a symposium in the Charleston Civic Center held by Purdue University, WVU economist William Miernyk declared outright

if allowed to continue, the environmental damage of strip mining would be so dire that other economic development would not occur, and this future would be irreversible.  He noted that surface mining has a limited life, either until all the coal is retrieved or until the legislature halts it, and with the economic and environmental health of the state at stake Miernyk supported the latter. SOURCE (PDF FILE)

Considering that Manchin graduated from WVU, one might assume that he'd be more respectful of what WVU researcher Hendryx and WVU economist Miernyk have to say, particularly when decades apart they both lead to essentially the same conclusion regarding the dire consequences of letting King Coal have its way with our natural resources. Which, come to think of it, pretty much rules out any argument that Manchin is "misinformed", doesn't it? On the other hand, since Manchin's WVU degree was in "information management" it's no leap to assume that he has more than a passing familiarity with the term "plausible deniability".

In other words, it is abundantly apparent that he's not only willfully ignoring scholars from his own Alma mater for his own political purpose, he's doing it to the extreme detriment of those who he's sworn to serve.

At this point one is only left wondering if, after Manchin's dismal display of disinformation, WVU has ceased awarding diplomas for "information management" without first requiring passing grades in several levels of ethics courses.


fascinating (4.00 / 1)
I wasn't aware of the history of William Miernyk. When he talked about strip mining driving out other economic development, that was based on a ground-breaking scientific model:

William H Miernyk Tribute

In 1973, Wassily Leontief won the Nobel Prize for Economics for the developing input-ouput analysis -- the same methods Miernyk used in his analysis of the West Virginia economy.


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I was aware of Miernyk's input-output methodology (0.00 / 0)
but I wasn't aware that a Nobel prize was awarded for the development of it. That's a great point.

The reason it's important to know is because when debating the studies revealing why coal hasn't been good for West Virginia, the most effective challenge I've seen to Hendryx's research is that being merely "peer reviewed" didn't automatically mean that his conclusions were accurate.  The pro-coal faction argues that far more thorough studies should be conducted, perhaps by the CDC before we alter our current economic course in any way.

That Miernyk used Nobel-prize winning methodology back in the early seventies to reach essentially the same conclusion is therefore a real debate stopper. His input-output methodology predicted West Virginia sinking deeper and deeper before thousands of miners were fired even as strip mining expanded into surface mining and long before surface mining developed into quarry mining (aka "mountain top removal") all across Appalachia.

The only other argument I've encountered which coaliacs use coming even close to being salient was when they attempted cast doubts on modern researcher Hendryx's methodology of phoning coalfield residents to inquire about the cost of their families' health care. As a group, pro-coal debaters strongly insinuate that coal field residents lie about the health of their families at a rate of over 5 times greater than non-coalfield Appalachian families.

It should be noted that although researchers relied on interviews of coalfield residents to some extent, the follow-up research revealed that the interviews were supported by existing records.

Hendryx and Ahern found that as the amount of coal mining rose in Appalachian counties, average incomes and education went down. Meanwhile, poverty rates, unemployment rates and mortality rates went up. The researchers were particularly interested in the high mortality rates in Appalachian coal counties. On average over the years of the study, coal mining counties had 3,975 more deaths each year than a similar population of non-coal residents of Appalachia.

The two West Virginia University professors found that these premature deaths in coal communities cost the country $18.2 billion per year. source

While it's revealing that Kentucky's Mountain Association for Community Economic Development (MACED) demonstrated that in 2006 coal mining cost the Commonwealth of Kentucky $115 million more in subsidies and expenditures than the state collected in taxes and fees, it is even more remarkable that West Virginia politicians haven't publicly clamored for our state to mount a comparable breakdown. Could that be because they know that WVU economist Miernyk's predictions from 1972 have all come true?

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Clem, since you're on far better terms with Ken Ward than am I, perhaps you could persuade him to publish the other three modern WVU research papers which he has only abstractly referenced on his Coal Tattoo blog and in his newspaper articles.
 


[ Parent ]
Another problem the EPA did not cause (0.00 / 0)
The big fracking fluid spill in Doddridge County.

West Virginia regulators aren't saying exactly what happened, but environmentalists are growing increasingly concerned about a large spill of  "fracking fluid" from a gas drilling operation in Doddridge County.

The incident in question apparently occurred in late August along Buckeye Run, between West Union and Salem.  The stream is a tributary of Middle Island Creek, and the drilling operation run by West Union-based TAPO under a permit issued by the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection.

Gov. Manchin, what are you doing to solve this problem?


How did stevewvu describe fracking fluid? (0.00 / 0)
oh yeah

most frack jobs in wv have that lethal mixture of water, nitrogen, sand and small amounts of stabilizers....hardly a witches brew...


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