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Planning an end to Mountaintop Removal Mining

by: Clem Guttata

Fri Jan 08, 2010 at 07:47:11 AM EST


By Clem Guttata

The evidence is now crystal clear. The leadership of West Virginia needs to put the citizens of West Virginia--its people--ahead of corporate profits. Today we should all be calling for West Virginia political leadership to rally together to plan for an orderly end to mountaintop mining.

What we learned

This is a watershed moment in the history of mountaintop removal mining.

If anything, most stories on the study understate the magnitude of the findings. If you can spare the time, listen to the press conference the science team gave yesterday at the press club or to this interview by Bob Kinkaid. (Heck, listen to both! I learned something new in each one.)

The science team entered the project with no preconceived notion about how effective mountain top removal mitigation might be or how damaging MTR is. After this study the interdisciplinary team of 11 scientists reached this conclusion (summarized by McClatchy):

   The consequences of this mining in eastern Kentucky, West Virginia and southwestern Virginia are ""pervasive and irreversible," the article finds. Companies are required by law to take steps to reduce the damages, but their efforts don’t compensate for lost streams nor do they prevent lasting water pollution, it says.

   The article is a summary of recent scientific studies of the consequences of blasting the tops off mountains to obtain coal and dumping the excess rock into streams in valleys. The authors also studied new water-quality data from West Virginia streams and found that mining polluted them, reducing their biological health and diversity.

   Surprisingly little attention has been paid to this growing scientific evidence of the damages, they wrote, adding: "Regulators should no longer ignore rigorous science."

   New permits shouldn’t be granted, they argued, "unless new methods can be subjected to rigorous peer review and shown to remedy these problems."

In the Kinkaid interview one of the scientists said it'll take 10,000 years for mountain top removal sites to return to pre-mining condition.

Another scientist said that residents living near mining operations should consider moving to protect their health.

Another said that no known restoration/mitigation plans could work--even if you could restore water flows and vegetation mixes (something we have no idea yet how to do), there are still major down stream chemical pollution problems.

Another scientist points out that the chemical pollution problems (e.g., selenium) are not just trace amounts that could theoretically be a problem, they've already shown up in concentrations higher up in the food chain. Animals are showing up with selenium poisoning and there are no health advisories for residents in West Virginia not to eat fish from streams below certain mines out of concern of selenium exposure.

What happens next?

The most comprehensive study ever on MTR coal mining appears in arguably the most prestigious scientific journal it could appear in. It confirms what coal mining community members have been saying all along: we're dying out here.

The scientists agree: they have called for a halt to mountain top removal mining because of public health hazards.

The most responsible thing for West Virginia leaders to do today is rally together on behalf of all citizens of West Virginia--develop a plan for phasing out all existing Mountain Top Removal coal mining.

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that (0.00 / 1)
 a few insects and fish suffer downstream is not enuf imo to put a man out of a job

we know you don't follow links (4.00 / 2)
People are suffering.

11,000 excess deaths. That's people. Not just insects and fish. That's your neighbors. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that could be you or your kids.

No one is trying to put a man or a woman out of a job. I think most of us here are just trying to figure out how to create a sustainable future for everyone.


[ Parent ]
evidence (4.00 / 1)
Well, since you said you like humor, I'll share a gross joke. For those who are skeamish, skip over the blockquote.

Evidence
One day an old woman walked into a shop and got some dog food, she went to pay for it and the cashier said you can't buy that dog food we need evidence that you have a dog, so she bought in her dog and she got the dog food. The next day the same old lady went to get some cat food and the cashier said you can't have that cat food we need evidence that you have a cat, so she went home and got her cat and she got the cat food. Next day the same old lady went in again and she had a box, she told the cashier to put her finger in it, so she did. She said it felt warm and soft, the little old lady then said now you're satisfied can I have some toilet paper please!

So, I guess you don't believe in the field of epidemiology? In the long run, we're all dead so just live for today... eh?


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not (0.00 / 1)
provable to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty...tell you what, car crashes are killing people, lets get rid of cars...plus this past summer, i damn near took out an the entire monarch butterfly population on the grill of my truck...who's protecting the butterflies!..

[ Parent ]
LOL (4.00 / 1)
I think I'll put my trust in the peer review process at Science magazine over your opinion.

Though, I admit... the fact that you drove into some butterflies in a truck last summer almost--but not quite--convinced me that mountaintop removal coal mining must be absolutely and completely safe.

Trucks and butterflies. Monarchs, even. You really had me going there for a moment.


[ Parent ]
Here we go again (4.00 / 3)
It is painfully obvious that objective and thorough scientific studies mean nothing to those that want to continue with the same old same old.  Climate change (Global Warming) suffers the same fate at the hands of those that are unwilling to modify existing practices for the good of the world not just our community in West Virginia/Appalachia).

If we can't get government, business, and the people together on global warming how are we going to get the EPA, the state of West Virginia and our coal occupied leaders to understand that current practices are damaging the health of the people of West Virginia and those that live off of the water from our region.

I agree with you Clem... it is time for stevewvu to wake up and smell the butterflies.


[ Parent ]
thing is (1.00 / 1)
they are not objective.....i'll take what i observe with my own eyes over what some pinhead researcher at an out of state university with an agenda and who has never been to a mountain top rearrangment site has to say...and for the record...i dont dispute some effects of rearrangement are irreversible....the removal of trees from my house lot was pretty permanent too..

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not objective? (4.00 / 2)
Just because a scientist reaches a conclusion you don't like, it doesn't mean they were somehow biased. Tell us what was wrong with the study... What did the peer review at Science magazine miss?

Oh, wait, I just thought of something... how could they possibly be objective if none of them drove your truck last summer into multiple Monarch butterflies!!!

Dude, you are really grasping for straws... just admit you don't like the conclusions of the study but you think it's worth having people die for profits. Just admit that you think poisoning West Virginia land for tens of thousands of years is worth it so a few (mostly out of state corporations) can get richer by mining coal more cheaply.


[ Parent ]
i dont (1.00 / 1)
like the conclusions of the study cause its a weak study the outcome of which was predetermined by those who put it together...i listened to that hendryx guy on hoppy's show...hes got nothing other that perhaps mortality rates and poverty are high in the southern coal fields...he admits he can not measure the effects of other factors such as smoking obesity etc have on those verse the "pollution" he says rearrangement causes... moreover he admited he cant tell us what pollution it is...id like to where he got his medical degree to qualify him to state an opinion as to causation of mortality rate.....plus if i recall he's never even been to a rearrangment site...lol!

[ Parent ]
Remember Buffalo Creek (4.00 / 1)
Those three words should become a slogan.

[ Parent ]
The coal minions won't believe it (4.00 / 1)
They believe in 2012 prophecies but not evolution. That's the level of neanderthal that people like Don Blankenship have sold into coal slavery.

Sierra Club (4.00 / 1)

Press release from Sierra Club

Scientists Agree Mountaintop Removal Mining is Destroying Appalachia

Obama administration should take note and follow science on pending permits

Washington, D.C. -- Mountaintop removal mining in Appalachia destroys streams and headwaters, causes severe water pollution and flooding, and has the potential for serious human health impacts, according to an article being published tomorrow in Science, one of the world's preeminent peer-reviewed scientific journals. Leading scientists agree that current attempts to regulate pollution runoff from mountaintop removal sites are "clearly inadequate," and that stronger, more rigorous federal regulations are immediately needed to protect water quality in mining regions. The scientists conclude that new mountaintop removal mining permits should not be granted until peer-reviewed, scientific evidence shows that it is possible to remedy the stream destruction and public health threat.

"We hope the Environmental Protection Agency and the White House have subscriptions to Science magazine," said Joan Mulhern, senior legislative counsel at Earthjustice. "They need to see this article and act on the scientific consensus that mountaintop removal mining destroys streams and harms people. It reinforces the need for strong federal regulations that follow science and protect against the pollution brought by mountaintop removal mining."

"This groundbreaking new report in one of the world’s preeminent scientific journals makes it clear – mountaintop removal not only threatens human health and causes severe, sometimes irreversible environmental damage, but current regulations are also not adequate to protect Appalachia’s land and people," said Ed Hopkins, environmental quality program director at the Sierra Club. "If the Obama administration is serious about science driving policy, then this report should be the nail in the coffin that prompts the administration to issue new Clean Water Act regulations that prohibit the dumping of mining waste into streams."

Earthjustice and Sierra Club, along with dozens of other regional and national community, environmental and public health organizations, have been fighting in the courts and beyond to challenge illegal mining permits, strengthen environmental laws such as the Clean Water Act and enact federal regulations that follow science and the law.

Earthjustice and co-counsel from Public Justice and the Appalachian Center for the Economy and the Environment, on behalf of three West Virginia groups, are seeking review in the U.S. Supreme Court of a federal lawsuit reversed by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals that challenged mountaintop removal permits that violated the Clean Water Act In addition to participating in numerous lawsuits across Appalachia challenging the legality of permits for mountaintop removal operations, these groups and Sierra Club have also petitioned state and federal agencies for stronger rules and for increased oversight and enforcement.

Despite scientific evidence of the harms caused by mountaintop removal mining, the EPA continues to approve new mountaintop removal mining permits. Just this week, the agency announced it was planning to allow mining to proceed at the so-called Hobet 45 mine, part of one of the biggest mining sites in West Virginia.

"The Obama administration has started off the year on the wrong foot.  Approving one of the biggest mines in West Virginia is not the way to follow through on its resolution to follow the dictates of science and comply with the law," Mulhern said.

Last year, the Obama administration put a hold on 79 pending mountaintop removal mining permits, citing concerns over the environmental harm caused by this mining and vowing additional scientific scrutiny. The Hobet 45 mine was included in this list of permits held by the EPA.

"To prevent further irreparable damage, the EPA must change Clean Water Act rules to stop allowing companies to fill streams with mining waste," Hopkins said.

The full article will be available tomorrow in Science. For more information, visit http://www.umces.edu/mining.html

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Faces of Coal (0.00 / 0)
Press release:


   Jan 8 (Charleston, WV) - FACES of Coal, an organization of more than 40,000 people who support coal jobs and communities in Appalachia, disputes an article published in the journal Science today that makes unsubstantiated accusations about surface and mountaintop mining practices in Appalachia. The article, which does not include any new information, appears to be a collection of previously released materials offering conclusions and conjecture based on the opinion of the article's authors. Prior studies, including a 5000-page Environmental Impact Study on mountaintop mining in Appalachia, did not reach the same conclusions as the Science article, in which the authors call for an end to mountaintop mining.

   "I'm surprised by the bias displayed in the article. Clearly, however, the authors had an agenda, and several have spoken before on behalf of the activist community,"said Bryan Brown, state coordinator of the FACES of Coal Campaign. "One of the most glaring and misleading inaccuracies in the article relates to health of residents in West Virginia and Kentucky; the article makes assertions about our residents' health that it attributes to surface and mountaintop mining without bringing into the discussion any other contributing health factors that affect residents of such diverse communities. This is advocacy wrapped in science."

   The Federation for American Coal, Energy and Security (FACES of Coal) is an alliance of more than 40,000 people from all walks of life who are joining forces to educate lawmakers and the general public about the importance of coal and coal mining to our local and national economies and to our nation's energy security. In addition to keeping tens of thousands of people employed in good-paying jobs, coal is the lifeblood of our domestic energy supply, generating nearly half the electricity consumed in the United States today.



There's no compromising with the irrational (4.00 / 2)
I said this several days ago, and it remains true today. The Wheeling newspapers are going ape over this report and one particular Democratic whackjob, Del. Randy Swartzmiller (D-Hancock), is using secessionist rhetoric regarding the Obama EPA.

I say the Obama Administration should grow a set and shove their new regulations down West Virginia's throat. If West Virginia cannot bend, then let it break.


[ Parent ]
It's already broken (4.00 / 1)
That's why it can't bend!

Secession? Really? Then I guess he wouldn't mind if the Eastern Panhandle peeled off and joined Maryland or Virginia.

On the other hand, if we can hold on until 2012, the EP will get more clout because of redistricting. Maybe then we can introduce a little more flexibility.


[ Parent ]
Coal.. it what's in the air (0.00 / 0)
pollution, dust, chemicals in water, sludge over schools...corrupt politicians,regulators, and after all that they can't even keep the lights on in southern WV, what good is it?

We are the Mountain State (4.00 / 3)
We are the Mountain State.  It is called mountain top removal.  We are not called the coal state (though at times it seems we should be) or the valley fill state.  MTR is destroying large swaths of what defines us.

I think I have it figured out (4.00 / 2)
stevewvu only cares about cervids. His 'mountain top rearrangement' makes it easier for the cervids by detroying the ancient ecosystem in Appalachian forests. He is in their back pocket as he lobbys for more grzing meadows. It's obvious with his admitted recklessness that he cares nothing for nymphalids.

NFTT: Support My Team or I Will Dance

Plenty of other studies confirm the results of this one. NONE refute it. (4.00 / 1)
Except of course, stevewvu's personal study on the effect of his front grill on Monarch butterflies.

We all know exactly why the coal operators don't conduct their own study. And since surface mine proponents have time and again shown themselves as thugs and bullies, it has become evident that if one saw a bunch of treehuggers protesting along the road, they'd likely as not point their grill at them and accelerate. Mow 'em down like so many bugs.

It's part of the coal operator's terrorist jihad against the coalpatch residents of this state, declared long ago by Don Blankensheikh.  Because apparently poisoning southern West Virginians isn't working out quite as efficiently as planned, due to recent unexpected court rulings.

Note to Stevewvu: Acting like an ignorant bully sure makes it a lot tougher to feel sorry for out-of-work strip miners.


and (0.00 / 1)
a slanted study headed up by a psychology professor makes it hard to feel sorry for the mayflies

[ Parent ]
Stevewvu, you've had days to research and respond properly yet you still offer no evidence that the study is slanted. (4.00 / 2)
Other than your own personal opinion.

Someone, please, get a new tackling dummy in here. Stevewvu showing signs that he is definitely taken far too many hard knocks.

BTW I recently read some twittermail which indicates that stevewvu's employees have taken to regularly checking out WV BLUE and are now 0having a big laugh over how ridiculous his posts have gotten.  It's no wonder that he forbids them internet access from his business.  Too bad he can't stop 'em from accessing from their homes.  

If you don't believe me, stevewvu, start checking their wastebaskets because someone is printing out your WVABLUE comments and passing around copies of our reactions, dude. Apparently some think that you couldn't be funnier if you got yourself a pair of big floppy shoes and a red rubber nose.


[ Parent ]
i just (0.00 / 0)
had to post this...yep, scientists with an agenda should not be questioned...lol!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci...


do you ever read your own posts? (0.00 / 0)
'cause you obviously don't read your own links. That one describes a study that says anything between ten and 50 per cent of the temperature changes (average global warming trends) might be caused by something other than human causes (increased CO2).

That's hardly a debunking of AGW. Sure, they may be some other things going on with the climate in addition to human caused climate change, but that's hardly reason to keep fouling up our atmosphere with more and more greenhouse gases.

For those who follow links: more debunking of the non-debunking.


[ Parent ]
yes i do read (0.00 / 0)
them...point of the article is that we are in a cooling period...not warming as you and others suggest...we are not in dire straights as you suggest..thats the point....and when something might be, it might not be as well....but you folks are so set in your position you beleive without question that man made global warming is going to ruin the earth...and thats borne of your agenda...the global warming is gonna ruin the world is a myth!

[ Parent ]
Climate change, grasshopper, climate change (0.00 / 0)
As I have said before the planet will be fine.
Not all Neanderthals survived the last Ice Age.

NFTT: Support My Team or I Will Dance

[ Parent ]
well (0.00 / 0)
i wont be around to see the next in any event

[ Parent ]
it should scare the sh*t out of you... (0.00 / 0)
Yes, the point of the article is that we might be in a long-term planetary cooling period. If that is true, it should scare the sh*t out of you if we are experiencing persistent higher average global temperatures at the same time our planet is in a natural cooling period. That means we've screwing up the atmosphere even worse.

But, that was only the point of the article, not really any major scientific news. If your reading comprehension skills were as strong as your projectioins, you'd realize the scientists in no way deny the relationship between increased greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and global climate change.

It would be great if humans weren't causing our planet to have a fever. It would be great if we could get all the coal we wanted out of the ground without damaging our environment. Unfortunately, that's not the earth we live on.

Keep burying you head in the sand, that doesn't change reality.


[ Parent ]
which is it (1.00 / 1)
clem...am i gonna die from the cold or the heat?...i'd like to know so that i can dress accordingly for my demise...

[ Parent ]
I'll treat that as a serious question (0.00 / 0)
And say that you, my friend--as an admitted selfish bastard--are most likely to die from bad karma.

Alas, I've seen but a few hopeful signs that you're even thinking about preparing for that demise.


[ Parent ]
Science alwasy has an agenda. (0.00 / 0)
It's called a theory.

The Daily Mail is a British daily tabloid newspaper.

The middle-market tabloids, the Daily Mail and the Daily Express are (possibly thankfully) concerned with a very different readership - that of affluent women. Weekend supplements and carefully-placed sponsorship ensure that these titles are a cheap alternative to a magazine, while sports supplements aimed at the husband aim to broaden their readership.

The Daily Mail has a staunch right-wing agenda, and is lampooned by some for their over alarmist headlines, particularly about political asylum seekers, house prices and "things that give you cancer" - in 2009, the Daily Mail claimed in the same month that coffee would "give you cancer", as well as "cure you from cancer" in different stories.

I guess the familiar name is comforting.

And congratulations on your future move to the UK, stevie.

NFTT: Support My Team or I Will Dance


[ Parent ]
hey (0.00 / 0)
only my closest of friends call me stevie

[ Parent ]
irrespective (0.00 / 0)
the question lingers, are things heating up or cooling down...the world wonders

[ Parent ]
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