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Why Carte Goodwin Should be Senate President, acting Gov.

by: Clem Guttata

Thu Dec 30, 2010 at 15:16:21 PM EST


By Clem Guttata

Update: See update at bottom of post that corrects a (major) factual error.

Before I remind everyone why Carte Goodwin is the right person to the serve as West Virginia Senate President, acting Governor, I want to dispense of one objection.

Senate Rules

There is nothing in past state Senate rules that says the Senate president needs to be an elected member of the Senate. In fact, of the 4 elected Senate offices, the President is the only one regularly held by a member of the Senate.

The amended rules agreed upon by the majority of the Democratic caucus for the 2011 West Virginia state Senate are also moot on the question of eligibility for Senate President.

Current Challenges

With that objection out of the way, let's review the major political controversy of the moment.

There are two major challenges at hand:

1. A constitutional challenge: Our constitution states that no one can serve in the legislative and executive departments (a.k.a. branches) at the same time. That's the crux of the on-going lawsuit, that someone elected as a State Senator is ineligible to serve as acting Gov.

2. A political challenge: There is no shortage of people who want to be elected as Gov. of West Virginia. As citizens of this fine state, we should all be proud to have so many well qualified candidates to lead our state. Alas, we're just not sure how long we're going to have to wait to choose among them.

Meanwhile, only one person can act as Gov. while we wait for an election. Of course, all those other fine folks who can't act as Gov. want the election sooner rather than later. To complicate matters, it may well be the person who is acting as Gov. who gets to decide exactly when!

Solution

Fear not, here is a solution: a caretaker acting Governor.

Carte GoodwinAs it happens, West Virginia is also blessed with an experienced caretaker at hand. Carte Goodwin showed himself quite capable at filling in as a United States Senator on short notice.

If then Gov. Joe Manchin thought Carte Goodwin was qualified enough back then to serve in Joe's next job, surely Carte is qualified enough now to serve in Joe's last job.

Along with the new 2011 Senate rule changes adopted by the Democratic caucus, the constitutional crisis can be is when someone other than a Senator being elected as Senate President.

Because the newly elected Senate President then immediately takes the office of acting Governor, as long as they never perform any other Senate duties, the separation of branches will be maintained.

Further, Carte Goodwin has expressed no interest in running for Governor. He was quite satisfied to return to private life after serving as a United State Senator. As acting Gov. his attention will be fully on being Gov., not on winning re-election, too.

This is, admittedly, a creative and unexpected solution.

Extraordinary times call for extraordinary solutions.

Update

Well, so much for that solution. The constitutional problem is not solved.

6-24.  Rules governing legislative proceedings.

The Senate shall choose, from its own body, a president; and the House of Delegates, from its own body, a speaker.  Each house shall appoint its own officers, and remove them at pleasure.

It just goes to show what a mess the state of West Virginia laws are in.

The best alternative I've heard of is having either the Sec. of State or the State Auditor also serve as the Lt. Gov., serving in the Gov.'s place during their absence. Then, with less than a year left in a term elections completed in 90-120 days.

If you agree that we need a better defined governor succession plan to avoid legal cases and constitutional ambiguity in the future, contact your state legislators (we've each got two state Senators and one House member) and let them know.

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Clem (4.00 / 1)
Are you putting the Carte before the horse?


When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

Great idea (0.00 / 0)
This actually is a great idea that would solve the problem until the special election.

When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

a sticky point (0.00 / 0)
Okay, so I've heard one real argument against this idea.

On Twitter... from @WVsenatorelect Senator Bob Beach:

Article VI, State Constitution- The Senate SHALL choose, from its own body, a president...(supercedes Senate Rules)

My response:

Article 5-1. Division of powers. comes first; says a leg. can't be Gov.; bit of a problem, eh?


Division of Powers (4.00 / 2)
Clem,

I am not sure I understand the basis of your argument about why a member of the State Senate is ineligible to be the acting governor.  If that's how the succession law reads in the WV State Constitution, which it does, then it's intrinsically constitutional in that the State Constitution cannot be unconstitutional.  I asked my resident expert about this, and he says the constitution is never and cannot be in conflict with itself.  It's not a case where whichever article and section comes first takes precedence.  (You should all know that we now have out the "WV Election Laws and Reference Manual 2009 edition" in my living room...) 5-1 and  7-16 have to be read and managed in such a way that they work together.

Also, Sentator-elect Beach is correct about the issue that the Senate president has to come from the body of senators.  Based on 6-24, the Senate chooses "from it's own body a President."  


About dear Carte... (4.00 / 1)
Wasn't Carte all about coal too? Is that really what West Virginia needs, more people in power addicted to taking dirty campaign money(quite literally) from dirty industries that poison and impoverish this state?

HELLO! Do people in this state have that big of a short-term memory problem?

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/...

http://www.politico.com/news/s...


Short memory (4.00 / 1)
Good Lord! Who appointed him Senator?

Reason enough (0.00 / 0)
to be suspicious of Goodwin.

[ Parent ]
Could it be................. (0.00 / 0)
SATAN!

Goodwin? (4.00 / 2)
What makes Goodwin qualified other than being a Manchin pawn?  Wasn't Goodwin's first statement as Senator one supporting the coal industry?  

If Goodwin is a rising star like everyone claims him to be then he should take on Capito in 2012.  That will give him both experience and give the rest of us a chance to really see where he stands on the issues.  


main take-away (0.00 / 0)
I agree with the critiques of Carte Goodwin's stance on environmental issues. I think he'd be just as bad most of the other major candidates or either sitting Senator. As a few months placeholder he'd not be in a position to do any new damage, though.

But, what I really hope everyone gets from this post is how screwed up the succession process is and it'll convince you to contact your legislators to tell them to pass a bill in January to deal with it. :-)


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