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Bill Raney: Stupid or dishonest?

by: heath_harrison

Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 01:30:24 AM EST


by heath_harrison

West Virginia Coal Association President Bill Raney had a column printed in a few state newspapers this week.

Raney tries to position himself as a defender of jobs and the well-being of West Virginians (which is funny as he's an ally of the pro-outsourcing U.S. Chamber of Commerce, but that's an issue for another time and place).

And, of course, Raney wants you to overlook the countless jobs his industry has eliminated as they extract record amounts of coal while employing fewer workers using more destructive methods.

Anyway, the piece is typical Raney, loaded with some of the most hysterical rhetoric we've heard since the night the lights went out at Spike Maynard headquarters.

But one line in particular, on the EPA regulating carbon dioxide emissions really jumped out:

"And keep in mind that we are talking about CO2, carbon dioxide, the same thing we all exhale with every breath. How harmful can that be?"

As you can imagine it's a common talking point from the rightwing. Here's the debunk from Media Matters for America:

But scientists are not saying that carbon dioxide is inherently harmful, as Media Matters for America has documented. Rather, they point to the danger posed to the atmosphere by excessive discharges of C02, as the Natural Resources Defense Council has noted:

   [A] pollutant is a substance that causes harm when present in excessive amounts. CO2 has been in the atmosphere since life on earth began, and in the right amounts CO2 is important for making the earth hospitable for continued life. But when too much CO2 is put into the atmosphere, it becomes harmful. We have long recognized this fact for other pollutants. For example, phosphorus is a valuable fertilizer, but in excess, it can kill lakes and streams by clogging them with a blanket of algae.

Indeed, while C02 is a natural gas, the current levels in the atmosphere are the result of human activities. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, "Since the Industrial Revolution in the 1700's, human activities, such as the burning of oil, coal and gas, and deforestation, have increased CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. In 2005, global atmospheric concentrations of CO2 were 35% higher than they were before the Industrial Revolution."

According the 2007 United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's 2007 "Synthesis Report," "Global GHG [greenhouse gas] emissions due to human activities have grown since pre-industrial times, with an increase of 70% between 1970 and 2004." It further explains, "Carbon dioxide (CO2) is the most important anthropogenic GHG. Its annual emissions have grown between 1970 and 2004 by about 80%, from 21 to 38 gigatonnes (Gt), and represented 77% of total anthropogenic GHG emissions in 2004."

We could ask if Raney is so ignorant that the concept of "excessive" is beyond his understanding, or if he's just trying to confuse readers on the issue - but, considering that this is a guy who probably works closely with teams of lawyers and lobbyists on these matters, we all know the answer.

Are standards truly so low at West Virginia newspapers that dishonest, easily-debunked garbage like this is guaranteed a prime spot on the opinion page?

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why pick... a must read (4.00 / 2)
This is an great article, Dirty Pictures | Courtesy of Big Coal, and it includes details about Bill Raney's visits to West Virginia classrooms extolling the virtues of coal:

Only the good stuff, none of the bad stuff is shared as Bill Raney visits Mary Grace Peck's third grade class.

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.


Great post, heath (4.00 / 2)
So by his thinking because water is necessary for human life, there's no such thing as drowning.

When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

or flooding. (4.00 / 1)


In a good conversation everyone speaks.  In a great conversation some even listen.


[ Parent ]
Bill Raney (4.00 / 1)
I was talking to a former General in the U.S. Army the other day. I said to him Gen. M., I'm being called a son of a bitch on both sides. You got me into this. How can we correct this? He said those people are calling you a SOB? I said yes Sir. He said, hell son you should take that as a compliment. I think Bill Raney will take this article as a compliment. One other thing. Bill Raney is a retired Colonel from the USAR. Is he stupid or dishonest? I don't think so on either account. I think he truly believes in what he's doing. I don't know that I always agree with him but he has done some good things for West Virginia.

good reminder (4.00 / 1)
The vast majority of the time the vast majority of people have sincere motivations for their actions. That's generally the safest assumption to start from.

We've all got blind spots, let's say that Bill Raney has a huge one when it comes to the downsides of using coal to generate electricity.

Are there any ways that work well to help people see their blind spots?


[ Parent ]
I agree. I don't think he's dishonest and definitely not (4.00 / 2)
stupid.  I think he believes in what he's doing and is genuinely baffled at our stance on coal.

Bill Raney is ignorant (4.00 / 2)
not stupid, but he thinks - with good reason - that many of those listening to him are. These tactics have been used by Big Coal and coal-owned WV politicians for what seems like forever. As anyone who has had a 5th grade education should know, CO2 is a waste product of human respiration. Humans also expel quantities of urine and feces. Does Mr. Raney oppose sanitation and water treatment?

More importantly Raney, and coalocrats Rockefeller and Manchin need to take a look at this article from Climate Progress: http://networkedblogs.com/cv8jw

"Coal is a dead man walkin'," says Kevin Parker, global head of asset management and a member of the executive committee at Deutsche Bank. "Banks won't finance them. Insurance companies won't insure them. The EPA is coming after them. . . . And the economics to make it clean don't work."

American Electric Power, the nation's largest generator of electricity, is also taking a cautious approach. The only plant AEP has under construction is the highest efficiency model, known as "ultra supercritical." Under the new EPA guidelines, these high-efficiency plants could become the standard, reducing coal use.

"We have no other coal-fueled generation planned at this time," says Pat D. Hemlepp, a spokesman for AEP. "The decline in demand has delayed the need for additional new generation."

Add to this the development of cheaper, more efficient solar cells:

PASADENA, Calif.-Using arrays of long, thin silicon wires embedded in a polymer substrate, a team of scientists from the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) has created a new type of flexible solar cell that enhances the absorption of sunlight and efficiently converts its photons into electrons. The solar cell does all this using only a fraction of the expensive semiconductor materials required by conventional solar cells.

Economic diversification anyone?


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