Torture lovers lie to justify their fetish

by: Carnacki

Tue May 03, 2011 at 10:05:56 AM EDT

That defies logic of course since if it was successful as a tool for gathering information, President Bush wouldn't have ordered the stopping of it near the end of his term and if it had produced useful information he wouldn't have disbanded the team formed to hunt for bin Laden in 2006.

But when facts don't fit in the false reality the rightwingers and their apologists want to create, they make up their own facts.

"The news is sure to reignite debate over whether the now-closed interrogation and detention program was successful," the AP wrote. "Former president George W. Bush authorized the CIA to use the harshest interrogation tactics in U.S. history. President Barack Obama closed the prison system."

There's just one problem. The key bit of intel wasn't acquired via torture, according to a more fleshed out version of the same report.

But the myth provided a brief opening. Thus have Republicans constructed a version of events by which they -- and Bush in particular -- deserve some of credit for bin Laden's death.

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But then the AP updated the story yet again, adding this crucial detail.

   

Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic.

Thus, a big chunk of the rationale for giving the Bush credit for bin Laden's death falls apart. It took officials until Obama's presidency to locate this courier, and well into Obama's second year in office before they found the compound. Only then was the raid itself designed and, on Sunday, implemented.

At some point, can we just admit that these torture advocates simply want to beat people  for their own sick pleasure and it has nothing to do with "intelligence gathering?" They're mentally sick people and their efforts to justify their torture fetish are really a cry for help.