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Will Senator Manchin support jobs?

by: Carnacki

Tue Oct 11, 2011 at 13:42:58 PM EDT


Does Sen. Joe Manchin support creating jobs or not?

Will Manchin stand by working families or the Koch brothers? In 2012, Manchin is going to need the votes of West Virginians and the Koch brothers don't vote here.

A vote against the Jobs Bill will imperil Manchin's reelection chances. Via John Cole, the Washington Post has an article on the popularity of the Jobs Bill] and the risk to Democrats voting against it:

The White House and Dems have been railing against Republicans for opposing the jobs bill, but if a few Senate Dems defect, and a simple majority of the Senate doesn't support it, that will dilute the Dem message that Republicans are the key obstacle to progress on the economy.

But Greenberg's case for voting for the bill went significantly beyond this concern about overall party messaging. He argued that moderate Democrats who vote against it are actually imperiling their own reelection chances.

"They reduce their risks for reelection by showing support for a jobs bill that's going to be increasingly popular as voters learn more about it," Greenberg said. "They have to be for something on the economy, and this the kind of proposal they should support. If I were advising them, I'd say you want to be backing a jobs bill with middle class tax cuts paid for by tax hikes on millionaires. Moderate voters in these states very much want to raise taxes on the wealthy to meet our obligations."

Crucially, Greenberg pointed out that if moderate Dems are hoping to show distance from the President and his low approval numbers by voting against the jobs bill, they run another risk: Dem disunity on the economy could backfire on them.

"Voting No would increase their risk of losing," Greenberg said bluntly. "Democrats would look divided on their central agenda. In the end you all go down with the ship here. Why would you send Democrats back to the Senate if they are divided on the most important issue facing people? Here you can show unity and purpose, which Democrats have not had an opportunity to do during budget negotiations."

Greenberg dismissed concerns about Obama's overall numbers. "It's a long time until the election, and the presient's standing can go up," he said. "If the Democrats are divided and have a weak vote on the jobs bill, then moderates will only hurt themselves."

Republican John Raese hurt himself by appearing to want to represent millionaires more than West Virginians.

If Manchin wants to claim millionaires need those tax loop holes because they're "job creators" he should answer this:

Where's all the jobs those "job creators" have created?

A no-vote by Manchin on the Jobs Bill will make him appear as out of touch with West Virginians as Raese did.

Update

Senator Manchin came through on this vote, though the Republicans succeeded in filibustering. Republicans are opposed to job creation because they see their best chance for electoral success is to keep the economy down. As Republican Senator Mitch McConnell said, the No. 1 goal of the Republicans is to defeat President Obama, not to revive the economy and get people back to work.

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Manchin is not a moderate (4.00 / 4)
It is obvious that so many folks have moved so far to the right that what used to be conservative is now moderate.  A Blue Dog Democrat is NOT a moderate.  The Blue Dogs along with our Joe Manchin are what we used to refer to as Southern Democrats before they defected to the Republican Party, and they were staunchly conservative.  Between the Blue Dogs and the new Republican Party nothing will get done in Washington.

It is time for Manchin to realize that his caucus is made up of Democrats.  We all know he won't.


Call (4.00 / 2)
Quick action needed to support the American Jobs Act! Sen. Manchin is undecided on how he will vote when it comes up in the Senate. Sen. Manchin needs to hear from all of us by Monday! Call 888-659-9401 during business hours to be connected to his office or click the link below to send him a note. Ask him to put WV'ins back to work by supporting the Am. Jobs Act!
http://manchin.senate.gov/cont...

Events Statewide This Week (4.00 / 1)
- America Wants To Work!

Please attend an event near you - we all need to stand together at this time to show that West Virginians are united in the desire to put this state and country back to work! For more details on these actions, including locations and times, click http://local.we-r-1.org/weareo...

Lewisburg October 12, 2011 4:00PM to 5:00PM

America's jobs crisis is urgent and our economy will not recover until people get work. The Southeastern Labor Council will hold a community vigil to express the need for good jobs. America Wants to Work!

South Parkersburg, WV October 12 - 11AM to 1PM

The Parkersburg Area Labor Council will hold a "Jobs" Street Heat Action to express the need for Good Jobs and Local Jobs for Local Workers! America and West Virginia Wants to Work! SHOW US THE JOBS!!

North Parkersburg - October 14, 2011 7:30AM to 9:30AM

The Parkersburg Area Labor Council will hold a "Jobs" Street Heat Action to express the need for Good Jobs and Local Jobs for Local Workers! America and West Virginia Wants to Work! SHOW US THE JOBS!!

Morgantown - October 15, 2011--12:00PM to 2:00PM

Join others in support of the OccupyWallStreet effort, to demand "Jobs, Not Cuts" and to ask Congress to "Pass the Jobs Bill Now!" WVU Moutainlair Green Space

Oak Hill, WV- October 15, 2011 9:00AM to 3:00PM

South Central Labor Council Officers will have a booth at the 2011 Bridge Day festivities. They will hand out materials concerning the need for Good Jobs and Local Jobs for Local Workers!! America and West Virginia Wants To Work!!

Charleston, WV- October 13, 2011 11:30AM to 12:30PM

In light of President Obama's decision to call the Senate to vote next week, we must  call upon Senator Manchin to support the Jobs Act. Meet in front of the Federal building at 300 VA. St E.


Manchin (3.00 / 2)

He's just exactly like I thought he would be.

I'm so glad that I have never voted for him ever for anything he has ever run for.

If there was a third party I've voted for them. If not I've just sat it out.


Manchin is a republican (3.00 / 2)
He's just showing his true colors.  This man is the worst Democrat this state has elected in 30 years.

Republicans kill the jobs bill (4.00 / 2)

 

From rollcall.com... Republican voted a straight party line tonight along with 2 Democrats Ben Nelson (RD NE) and Jon Tester (RD MT) to kill the Presidents Jobs Bill tonight.  Joe Manchin had made it clear that he would vote for it tonight, but vote against it in final form.

At least three Members of the Democratic Conference who voted to move the legislation forward, Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), Joe Manchin (RD-W.Va.) and Jim Webb (RD-Va.), said they would have opposed its final passage absent significant adjustments

 



jobs bill (2.00 / 1)
JDRs vote will hurt his re-election chances in WVa much more than JM3's will.  

I dunno (0.00 / 0)
Look at the results of this (as they say, unscientific) poll.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion...

I have this vague hope that people in general may be getting the idea...


[ Parent ]
Manchin needs to admit he's a REPUBLICAN (4.00 / 1)
The corporatist and Blue Dog Manchin MUST be primaried in 2012!
And NO MORE "Manchin-style" FAKE Democrats.

He has voted against the middle class and with the obstructionist Republicans, who have sold our democracy to wealth and corporate greed, and RUINED THIS COUNTRY, its job market, and its economy.

The 50 year transfer of wealth and income to the top 1% must be STOPPED, and our democracy rescued from the Kochs, bankers, and energy and finance "industries."  


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