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Al Gore - "A horrible mistake"

by: WVaBlue

Sun Jun 03, 2007 at 20:36:26 PM EDT


Cross-posted from DailyKos.

Is your Senator one of the 12 cosponsors? Is your representative one of the 30 cosponsors in the house? The list is so long I had to put it below the break!

Check the list and then start contacting them to register your disappointment. As Al Gore says, they are making "a horrible mistake" by co-sponsoring this massive corporate welfare subsidy for a disastrous energy policy.

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In the Senate
S.154 -- Title: A bill to promote coal-to-liquid fuel activities.
Status: Referred to the Committee on Energy and Natural Resources.
Sponsor: Sen Bunning, Jim [KY]
COSPONSORS(12)
Sen Bond, Christopher S. [MO]
Sen Byrd, Robert C. [WV]
Sen Craig, Larry E. [ID]
Sen Dorgan, Byron L. [ND]
Sen Enzi, Michael B. [WY]
Sen Landrieu, Mary L. [LA]
Sen Lugar, Richard G. [IN]
Sen Martinez, Mel [FL]
Sen Murkowski, Lisa [AK]
Sen Obama, Barack [IL]
Sen Pryor, Mark L. [AR]
Sen Thomas, Craig [WY]

In the House
H.R.370 -- Title: To promote coal-to-liquid fuel activities.
Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Energy and Air Quality.
Sponsor: Rep Davis, Geoff [KY-4]
COSPONSORS(30)
Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6]
Rep Boucher, Rick [VA-9]
Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [LA-7]
Rep Cannon, Chris [UT-3]
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2]
Rep Costello, Jerry F. [IL-12]
Rep Cubin, Barbara [WY]
Rep Davis, David [TN-1]
Rep Davis, Lincoln [TN-4]
Rep Drake, Thelma D. [VA-2]
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2]
Rep English, Phil [PA-3]
Rep Everett, Terry [AL-2]
Rep Hastert, J. Dennis [IL-14]
Rep LaHood, Ray [IL-18]
Rep Lewis, Ron [KY-2]
Rep Murphy, Tim [PA-18]
Rep Pickering, Charles W. "Chip" [MS-3]
Rep Rahall, Nick J., II [WV-3]
Rep Rehberg, Dennis R. [MT]
Rep Rogers, Harold [KY-5]
Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3]
Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1]
Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19]
Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9]
Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3]
Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6]
Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1]
Rep Wilson, Charles A. [OH-6]
Rep Yarmuth, John A. [KY-3]

Problem #1: Bad Energy Policy

We don't know how to sequester mass quantities of carbon dioxide created during coal liquefaction yet. Even once we figure that process out--a solution that will no doubt reduce the net energy output of the coal to fuel process itself--we've still got a dirty fuel that increases greenhouse emissions compared to petroleum.

Problem #2: Bad Social Policy

The coalfields of West Virginia are a mess. The cycle of rural poverty runs deeper than the veins of rich coal unearthed by generations past. For all of the natural riches extracted from Appalachia, no wealth has remained behind. The colonial extraction economy built on King Coal has been a human, social and environmental failure.

Once, coal mining employed hundreds of thousands of West Virginians. Today--as in so many other sectors of the economy--new methods making workers far more productive. The result is merely record corporate profits with no increase in worker benefits.

At the same time that Mountain Top Removal (MTR) surface mining practices now blight the wild, wonderful beauty of West Virginia, our coal mining employment has been literally decimated--[ http://www.appvoices... a 90% drop] from 150,000 down to 15,000 workers.

The toll of Mountain Top Removal hits worst, those who can least afford it the least. From Appalachian Voices:

Mountaintop removal involves clear cutting native hardwood forests, using dynamite to blast away as much as 800-1000 feet of mountaintop, and then dumping the waste into nearby valleys, often burying streams. While the environmental devastation caused by this practice is obvious, families and communities near these mining sites are forced to contend with continual blasting from mining operations that can take place up to 300 feet from their homes and operate 24 hours a day. Families and communities near mining sites also suffer from airborne dust and debris, floods that have left hundreds dead and thousands homeless, and contamination of their drinking water supplies.

In central Appalachian counties, which are among the poorest in the nation, homes are frequently the only asset folks have. Mining operations have damaged hundreds of homes beyond repair and the value of homes near a mountaintop removal sites often decrease by as much as 90%. Worst of all, mountaintop removal is threatening not just the people, forest and mountains of central Appalachia, but the very culture of the region. Coal companies frequently claim that mountaintop removal is beneficial for the people, economy and the environment, but the just don’t hold up.

Reject the coal surge strategy

Rep. Nick Rahall (WV-03) in a tough spot. [He's one of the driving forces behind this legislation.]

Just about all his district has for an economy is coal. Just about all that coal mining is now mountain top removal. Just about anyone that leaves the district for college never comes back.

The question is, do we double-down on a fossil fuel based coal-economy?
It is a totally tragic situation. Any direction out is going to cause major pain in the short term.

Right now we've got people with poisoned well water, foul air, and a place hardly worth living in a region dependent on coal. Stopping Mountain Top Removal--the right thing to do, in my mind--risks a major economic collapse.

A better way forward

It's time for some new thinking about both the social and environmental solutions for Appalachia and other regions suffering from the negative effects of our fossil-fuel based economy.

The proposed legislation of S.154 and HR.370 is throwing good money after bad. Instead of postponing that day of reckoning, let's figure out how to invest for a more positive future.

I have the audacity to hope for a brighter future for even the least fortunate among us. Can we give the residents of rural coal country drinking water that won't poison their kids, clean air to breath, and a hope that someday their grand-children will have a good-paying job without moving clear across the country? Instead of investing billions of dollars in corporate welfare lets invest that money in helping the least fortunate among us. They've already suffered enough on our behalf.

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Great Job Clem (4.00 / 3)
507 comments on DKos and 2124 YouTube views in 24 hours. I hope that the message gets to Senator Byrd and to our Democratic Congressmen. If it doesn't we need to get it to them. If you've got Capito call as well, but she won't change her mind. I for one will be making phone calls tomorrow. You can too... Senator Robert C. Byrd (D- WV) 202-224-3954 (FAX) 202-228-0002 Senator John D. Rockefeller, IV (D- WV) 202-224-6472 (FAX) 202-224-7665 Representative Alan B. Mollohan (D - 01) 202-225-4172 (FAX) 0202-225-7564 Representative Shelley Moore Capito (R - 02) 202-225-2711 (FAX)202-225-7856 Representative Nick Joe Rahall, II (D - 03) 202-225-3452 (FAX) 202-225-9061

Down with Capito! (4.00 / 2)
That boot-lickin' Bush lap dog!

Down with Capito!

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Repeating my e-mail from last night (0.00 / 0)
I'm a lifelong resident of Appalachian Virginia (with the exception of two years in Europe and another two in Florida) and have been active in environmental issues (especially coal-related) since the mid-1980s. Strip-mining has always been a problem here but MTR didn't become an issue until early in the Clinton administration. During those 8 years, MTR methods were being implemented but not at the pace of the Bush administration. And the regulatory agencies (OSM, MSHA, etc.) still had some teeth and a willingness to chomp down on bad operators. Since 2001, that has changed dramatically - it's like the Wild Wild West these days.
 
Anyone who has ever personally viewed a mountaintop removal site - either active or post-mined - has to be appalled.  But too few of the sponsors of the CTL debate have seen it first-hand.  (That's why it's so disheartening to me to see Rahall leading this.) We cannot move forward with CTL without tacitly endorsing MTR - plain and simple. To do so means that we will have to designate southern Appalachia as a national sacrifice(d) zone to cheap fuel.  CTL will not have the same impact on western states (such as Montana) where mines are generally on flat lands to start with - no slippery slopes to worry about.
 
There are three organizations that have done great work on this:
 
1) Appalachian Voices http://www.appvoices.org/ which developed and launched the wonderful website http://ilovemountains.org/ and got Google Earth to highlight it so prominently.
 
2) KFTC - Kentuckians for the Commonwealth http://www.kftc.org/
 
3) Ohio Valley Environmental Coalition http://www.ohvec.org/ , based in West VA. Here's a link to Vivian Stockman's position on CTL: http://www.ohvec.org/links/news/archive/2006/fair_use/09_03.html 
 
In addition to these orgs, Robert Kennedy, Jr. has also been quite vocal in his opposition to MTR. You can read him at: http://www.ilovemountains.org/cost_of_coal/87 , http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0223-25.htm, and see videos of him on this issue at: http://www.bigpicture.tv/tags/coal  Given his late father's and uncle's 'prominence' in Appalachian issues, we really need someone with his stature to lead, along with (still my) President Gore.
 
The key to the legislative sponsors is in their campaign contributions - this is certainly true for my congressman, Rick Boucher who is, for the most part, a very liberal Democrat except for coal-related issues. 
 
The industry wants coal production tied to 'jobs' and economic interests will always trump the environment on the ground. Most people who are employed by industry on MTR projects are addicted to the wages, not the work they do - most would be just as happy if they were creating roads, laying water lines, building bridges or schools as long as they were making the same wage.  I know this for a fact since several of my siblings (and/or their spouses) work in the industry - we just don't talk about it at family get-togethers since they all know how I feel about their work.
 
Always the mountains,
'va dare


Most McDowell Countians I know strongly favor this; they really haven't heard our side of the story (4.00 / 2)

I myself have to admit that I don't even know much about coal to liquid technology.  I really thought nothing of this until I heard about it in my church.  And the evangelicals and Pentecostals in there say that this is the "breakthrough 21st century technology' that will bring McDowell County and adjacent counties out of it's economic doldrums. 

Both Democratis and Republicans I know here strongly favor coal to liquid technology without really knowing the facts.  I didn't even know about them until I saw the piece and heard Vice President Gore speak....

I didn't know it required mountain top removal until I just read this piece.  I guess the media and liquified coal supporters don't want us coalfield residents to hear the other side of the story unti it's late.

And believe me most people hear both Republican and Democratic don't like Al Gore very well at all.  They will listen to anybody talk about this but him.  They consider him a "tree hugger" who wants to put every coal miner in the state out of work.

Remember the 2000 election?  Gore lost W. Virginia big time mainly because of this and other very similar issues related to coal mining and the environment.  They said then and continue to say even today in 2007 that if Gore were elected there would be no jobs in West Virginia.  Even my own mom says that Gore is a "tree-hugger."

As for my former friends in Pike County KY I wrote on here once that he is a surface miner.  I don't know if he does Mountain Top Removal or not.  I heard there is a big difference but am not 100 percent sure.  He and his wife earn more money in one year than most non-strip and non-MTR people here make in 5 years.  Like I said here before they really have it all.  And they are very strong Pentecostals and evangelicals as well.  They tried to act "non-partisan" when they talked to me but I know they are Republicans because Republicans put food on their and their three daughters' table.  Sadly the pastor there is unlike 99 percent of other Pentecostals both Republican and Democratic in that he strongly supports and even encourages believe it or not these very unethical practices.

We have to be very careful in our criticism and opposition to this, because if we don't W. Virginia will be a 100 percent Republican lock in 2008 just like in 2000 and 2004.  Even today most observers have already placed WV as a Republican lock or dangerously close to it with any Republican beating any Democrat at least by 4 to 8 points if not more right now. And they say if Hillary is the Democratic nominee she'll lose WV by at least double digits if not more.  And I think the same can be said of VP Gore as well.  I think John Edwards right now is the only Democrat capable of even making W. Virginia close right now.  Sad but true.

But the former sheriff of McDowell County says W. Virginia will vote strongly Democratic right now because of the Iraq War.  But I don't think he has studied liquified coal yet.  Even Democratic McDowell County could sadly turn Republican red if we are not careful in what we say and do about this, because the economy here is way way more important to my fellow McDowell Countians than the Iraq war even.

I have studied an electoral map website where you can predict the outcome of the 2008 presidential election and I say 3/4 of them have W. Virginia in the Republican category.  I even put W. Virginia in lean Republican category as well.

Even my family and most of my Democratic friends even support this 100 bill percent when really they don't know what's in this bill in the first place.

I think the supporters of this bill especially the Republican ones are playing politics with this.  It's sad to see many co-sponsors are from WV, KY, and VA. 

Senator Jim Bunning who is sponsoring this bill in the Senate has a disapproval rating in our neighbor the Bluegrass State of Kentucky of 2 to 1 if not higher.  This shows me that he is a very desperate man right now.  Any Democrat even the least popular one would beat him handily if his Senate election took place today instead of 2010. 

I am curious to why his fellow Senator Mitch McConnell who is up for re-election in 2008 who is on the ropes there why he did not co-sponsor the bill.  Hmmm....

Well I guess the same's true for Capto and Rahall.  I'm very sad that Byrd is co-sponsoring the bill.  I'm even surprised that Rockefeller and Mollohan didn't co-sponsor it.  Our neighbor Virginia's local congressman Democrat Rick Boucher who is loved in what is actually a very pro-Republican district adjacent to McDowell County is co-sponsoring it as well.

I think this bill will pass both houses of Congress fairly easily.  And you know Mr. Bush will sign this bill 100 percent.  We will just have to wait and see how this issue affects us.  Right now I think it's best to go ahead and challenge this bill now before the Dem and Rep primaries coming up early in 2008 because if we don't this issue will blow up in our faces like it did the last two presidential elections.  Because if we wait until say Sept. or Oct. 2008 to speak up the Republicans will carry W. Virginia easily. 

We need to educate as many people as much as we can about this before it's too late and too close to the 2008 presidential election.  We don't want W. Virginia voting Republican in the presidential election again....



I misspelled "Capito".... (4.00 / 1)
sorry about that.  i was just in a hurry and didn't take my time as always....

and "Democrats"; should have previewed comment first... (4.00 / 1)
typical bluemcdowell for you

[ Parent ]
it's blogging! (4.00 / 1)
There's no need to worry about sometimes mispelling wurds here and there. The good Rep. Crapito is a big believer in civility, too, so she no doubt gives us all the benefit of the doubt for an occassional typo as well.  :-)


[ Parent ]
Thanks Clem... (4.00 / 1)
I tend to be a perfectionist on stuff like this.  Sorry about this....

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